Bob Barney: My Plan on Doing MAGA the Right Way (Transcript)

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Hi, this is Bob Barney with The Plain Truth today, brought to you by theplaintruth.com, the one site you go to every day for the latest information and what you should know and what you can do to prevent any damage over today’s news.

I think the thing that most Americans were thinking about when Donald Trump was running for election last summer, talking about bringing manufacturing back to America, as I think most people who voted for him, including myself, thought was a good idea, and that he would use tariffs, and he did say that up front, in order to make some of these companies move back here, give them an incentive to move back here, and a de-incentive, I should say, to stay where they’re at. And that made sense if one was thinking about the macro versus the microeconomics.

If we are to fight a world war someday, and the chances are greater than ever that we will, we cannot depend on other countries making the necessary items that you need in order to fight a war. Therefore, for example, we might not have to worry about Nike sneakers and put a tariff on Nike sneakers made in Vietnam, but we wouldn’t have to think about rebuilding the industries that we need to have in order to fight a war that would require us to have these kinds of items, in my opinion. Pharmaceuticals, for example. Most generic pharmaceuticals are made in China today, and the idea that you could be fighting a war, probably with China or some other nation, the idea that you’d have to also get your pharmaceuticals from that nation that you’re going to go to war with is kind of absurd. So we really need a strong pharmaceutical-based manufacturing capability back in America.

We also need to be able to make ships in America.

We need to make steel in America.

We need to make aluminum in America. 

We need to dig for all the oil, coal, and any other natural resource to fuel the energy needs in America.

We need to fix our electrical grid.

There are many things we need to do in order to win a world war if we were to get in one, and I agree, and I think most Americans agreed with Donald Trump that America was not prepared to do so the way we were going for the last 30 years. I think everybody agreed with that. However, I do not think people had envisioned, and I know I did not have envisioned, that we were going to put tariffs against all of our allies and all of our enemies. One of the things you do when you’re planning on going into a war, if one is on the horizon, is figure out who is your allies and who is your enemies, and you put your effort into defending yourself against your enemies, not defending yourself amongst your allies, or worse yet, turning your allies into enemies, which I think is happening right now. So what would I do if I was a president, and you know you have limited powers, you still have to work through Congress, but he does have both houses of Congress after all, and he has a Supreme Court that has given him a lot of leeway in a lot of things he wanted to do, and even though he’s not admitting that today, it’s the plain truth.

With all of this said, what would I do if I were

president of the United States to try to shore up the American power base before we would ever enter a war?

A smart president or a smart general does not go into a war they don’t think they can win, or they have no capabilities to win. That’s not very smart. What you do before that is you negotiate, you do anything you can do to stop a war from happening, even if you capitulate on items you don’t want to capitulate on. You don’t want to go to war unless you absolutely know you can win the war. Unless you’re attacked, and that’s a different story, then you have to start from ground zero, but if you’re not being attacked and you are preparing for a war, then you have to come up with an infrastructure program, and that is not what I see happening. You don’t do that through tariffs. You do that through tax credits. You go to Johnson & Johnson or Eli Lilly, and you say we want a pharmaceutical plant up and running in 12 to 18 months, and we are willing to underwrite the entire cost of building that plant through tax credits. There’s not a company that is in business in America that would not jump at that program. Same thing when you get to steel companies. You say we’re going to give you total tax-free status to build steel companies in America and demand them with American workers, and to have this up and running in 36 months, and we want X number of plants.

Then you go to your car manufacturers and say we want to bring as much car manufacturing back to America as possible.

So this is what we will do.

We will incentivize American car making and American parts making. Now we understand that it’s going to take two to three years to get geared up to do that here, so this is our plan for the first two or three years. You will be tax-exempt on all of the parts that you bring in to manufacture cars. Your cars that are coming from enemy countries, however, that could possibly be an enemy country, we’re going to put a tariff on of let’s say 20 or 25 percent. And the parts we are not going to put a tariff on, but you are to promise and you are to show that you are going to build parts companies in American localities, use an American labor to do American parts, and you have 36 months to do so, or 48 months, whatever experts tell you, because the president is not an expert at everything, whatever experts tell you, you need to do. And you just then give them this game plan and every six months they have to report to you on their progress. If you find anybody that was just lying to you to get a tax credit or not to have the tariffs, then you can back charge them in the agreement that you charge so many, whatever the amount is, that they fail to accomplish. Take it all away from them and find the living tar out of them if they don’t comply. But you’re going to find out that all American businesses are going to comply with such good strategy of saving billions of dollars at the taxpayer’s expense. And yes, it will be at the taxpayer’s expense, and yes, the deficit will go up. But I explained in earlier programs, a rising deficit is not as harmful if you have a rising GDP in the country.

If the country is back to working, back to producing, and you have a seven or eight percent growth in the economy, that more than makes up for the deficit. Because the tax revenue that you will get from all the new workers and all the new manufacturing going on in this country will more than offset what you go up in the deficit. It just doesn’t. Deficits get worse when the economy goes south and people stop spending, and then you had all of this money in deficits, and your interest rates are going up, and your debt interest rate is going up, and the economy is slowing down. That’s when debts in countries cause national bankruptcies. But if the country is growing, it’s like in business, the expression sales solve all businesses. If your business is losing money and you’re trying to cut yourself to a profit, more often than not, what happens is you find yourself cutting yourself out of business and not to a profit. You have to manage your company with sales increases, not sales decreases, and cutting costs. That is not a proper strategy. And sometimes that works if a company was too big and too fat and selling in markets they should not have been. But for the most part, it’s a prescription for a company going bankrupt in the future. And that’s the same prescription for a country doing the same thing.

So what the whole purpose of my strategy would be was to prepare for a war in, let’s say, four to five years and not four to five days with all these tariffs against everyone.

We’re not at war with anybody right now, and I do not foresee we would be at war with anybody with any proper management of government at the executive level. You can make amends, you can make peace treaties, you can keep people happy until you build up your armaments. The other thing you do is you invest in military spending. Military spending does help the economy because you’re paying people to make these bombs and to make these aircraft and to make these navy boats and all of the tanks and vehicles that you need. That drives government spending up into the economy and it helps, believe it or not, raise taxes because people are going to be paying taxes on their incomes and jobs going.

The other thing you have to do, another mainstream, so we talked about the first part of this is start rebuilding your infrastructure. Start bringing back the goods you need to fight a war that you do not have to worry about in a war that you could not get from a foreign source. Like I said, you don’t need sneakers. You don’t need peaches in the wintertime coming from South America. You don’t need certain items that we buy today as luxury items. You don’t need Dooney and Burke pocketbooks if they’re made in China. You don’t need this shoe or that shoe or this shirt or this underwear. You do need to have major war machinery infrastructure being rebuilt and you do so with tax credits and U.S. government money.

That’s how you got to do things. You make a national drive, as we did in World War II, to re-industrialize our war-making capabilities, make our own ships, make our own tanks.

That’s the first of three-part structure. 

The second of the three-part structure, which is probably more important than the first in the long run, is you have to train the American public, especially the children in school and the people in high schools and even colleges, how to reinvent themselves in a manufacturing versus a consumerist world.

Because if you’re going to get back into manufacturing, the one thing you have to do is convince many people going to high school today that they do not want to go to college, that there is a better career for them and a much cheaper career, because they won’t have this $200,000 college debt and working at McDonald’s trying to pay it off, to learn a trade, learn how to work at a factory, learn how to make this product or that product for a factory, and believe it or not, these big companies, these companies that produce paints like what we do or produce chemicals or produce armored vehicles or produce cars or produce anything that you manufacture that takes technology, they will actually train people to do the job or pay for their training. And so if we were to retool schools to start teaching trades again at school, which happened when I went to school, and more people realized that a plumber makes more money than the average lawyer, it’s true, because the average lawyer is near broke and they find every scheme in the world to take your money away from you, legally or illegally, in order to make a living, where the plumber doesn’t have to steal from anyone, because everybody’s toilet is back up and they need a plumber real fast and they charge a lot of money. +

I know, I did some work on my house and the plumber was more money than the carpenters or electricians put together.

So there are trades that you start teaching your children in school to do. You have to revamp the entire school system. You have to get off this school system that we’ve had for the last 50 years now, and it’s probably about 50 years old or a little old, maybe a little less, maybe 45 years, where students are taught how to write a check, how to balance a credit card statement, how to do things that kids today just do not know how to do. I have people working for me that I taught them how to write checks out and pay bills and they didn’t even know how to write a check and they’re in their 20s, because it’s not taught in school. You think, oh, well, everybody uses credit cards. Well, not in business. And see, this is the thing, is we are not training our children what they need to know to be in an economy of a manufacturer versus a consumer economy. Then the other thing you do is, like I said, you bring in all of these trades, you invite the companies in that city. Like the town I grew up, there was a Nestle’s, there was a Scoville, and there was a Kimberly-Clark, and they were heavily involved in the local schools for a good reason, because they knew that the people that would eventually work for their companies would not be college educated, they would have a high school diploma, and they wanted to make sure these people could do a manufacturing type job.

And New Milford, Connecticut was a very strong manufacturing base back in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s. And that is another thing you have to do. You incentivize the schools and the companies around the communities to do the bidding that you want done to train the new generation. You know, I have a friend of mine who does a lot of dealings in China. And the one thing he said why so many American and European companies want to go to China to have manufacturing done has nothing to do with the cost of labor. In fact, the cost of labor in China is not as cheap as people think it is. People pay the Chinese quite well over there, considering the number of people they have to employ to do a job, because they don’t have the machinery necessarily in every job that we would hear, because they want to keep 1.4 billion people working. But one of the things that almost universally is told to me by people who actually run companies over there and factories over there is how well trained the potential worker they’re going to hire has been by the Chinese educational system. They come out of their school system knowing how to work with their hands, knowing how to do the things they need to do, and they fit right into society.

They fit right into the manufacturing companies they’re going to go to work for. They know what they’re doing. Yes, right out of high school or whatever school system they have, they know what they’re doing, and they fit right into a manufacturing society, into a company, and they work perfectly. They’re like mini robots, and everybody tells me the same thing. They cannot really think their way out of a wet paper bag if you ask them to plan something or tell you if something should be changed, because that’s not what they’re going to do. They are like perfect little mini robots that do the same job over and over again perfectly, because they are tedious at what they do, and they learn that. It’s part of their culture, but they learn that, and so this is why they don’t really need to invest in robotics as much in China, because their people are like little mini robots at a fraction of the initial cost to do so. But we need to do similar things about over here to train the American children that there are other ways to make money other than going to college, wrapping up a real big debt, not ever being able to pay for it, and then end up working at McDonald’s flipping hamburgers, and you know if you have any experience in this society in America today, you know this is what happens. Now the education is the second part of this, is to get our workers, and it doesn’t have to be just school-aged children.

Take people who work for industries that are going away, that it’s better for those industry to be made in a foreign country. It’s better to make sneakers in Vietnam than it is in anywhere in America. It’s that simple. So if you have people who are making that kind of business, and the businesses are not doing well, you transform that business through government help into new businesses that are needed for national security, and you retrain the workers. You can retrain workers who at any age in order, and sometimes I find in my business, retraining somebody in their 40s and 50s is easier than retraining or training somebody in their teens or 20s, because there is a big culture difference between being 20 years old and being 50, and the experiences that a 50 year old has when it comes to working. And so many companies, not just mine, find older people are sometimes the most excellent employee to retrain into a new job, and they come in with a past experience of a work ethic that you just don’t find in younger people today, a lot to blame because of the schools. So that’s the second thing that has to be done. 

The third thing, in my opinion, and this is probably the hardest thing that has to be done, especially with a press that will be against you, a Democratic party that mostly will be against you if you’re a Republican, and if you’re a Democrat, it’ll be your way around. It’ll be the Republican party staying in your way because these parties are not patriotic parties.

Neither of them are patriots. They’re all about get. One of the things you should realize that God wants you to know when you read the Bible is man’s way is about get. It is not about give. God gives us free grace. God gives us love. We want to get things, and we are selfish. What a baby is, when you see a one-year-old child playing with another one-year-old child, and one takes the other’s toy, he pops them over the head to get the toy back. People are selfish for the most part. So there has to be a training to people to turn the other cheek, to be kind to one another, to be giving, and it’s training. It’s what comes out of religion, proper religion, believing in God, believing there is a God, proven to yourself there is a God, and understanding that a nation controlled by a God, being blessed by their God, will be productive, will be loving, will be forgiving, and will be the nation that is impossible to defeat during bad times because those kind of people who know there’s a God, they know there’s a life coming that is going to be an enriched lifespan that is coming. These people will, like the World War II generation, they will put up with a lot of problems in order to fulfill their mission, and it’s all based on the faith of God and the faith that God has in them. And that is the third thing that’s going to be the hardest thing to do, is refocus this nation on God, God’s laws, and God’s morality. And one of the things we have to admit to as a nation, which I’m afraid this program is doing over and over again, and I don’t think people want to hear it. I’m sorry you don’t want to hear it, but you need to hear it. And I got a job to do, in my opinion, that God demands that people know this, that we are a stubborn people. We are a people who refuse to truly follow what God tells us to do. Instead, we want to follow a God of convenience.

We want to follow a God that does the things we want to do, and we want to find a God who’s going to let us do it. Frankly, we don’t want a God that says, I don’t want you to do this, I don’t want you to do that, that we want to do. If you love, for example, and this is just an example, this is not anything to do with the truth, but if you love, for example, bowling, and God says, you cannot bowl, and if you say, well, I need to bowl, I mean, that’s how I get my, then you’re part of the problem. You have to be willing to give up everything that God wants you to, in order to find the fulfillment that God’s going to give you, and the strength that this nation will get when it gets on God’s side, and God gets on our side, and starts blessing us, and cursing our enemy. Remember the thing that God told Abraham, I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse those who curse you. There is no worse enemy that anyone can have than God Almighty against them, and so if our enemies out there are cursing us, God, if we are in God’s side, will bless us, and curse them back, and everything they do in order to ruin us, and ruin our nation, will backfire, and you read this over, and over, and over again in the Bible.

Another thing you read over, and over again in the Bible, is when a nation, especially our nation, and who we really are in the Bible, disobeys God, and goes our own way, and says, God, we’re going to do things our way, and you’re going to have to accept it, then disaster follows. One does not have to look very far into this country, and see disasters is right around the corner. We have fires in every state. We have tornadoes worse this year than in any year in recent history. Has nothing to do with global warming. It has to do with maybe God sending us a warning, not a global warning, but a spiritual warning that we are dead spiritually to God, and if a nation is going to do this, especially who we are as a nation, God’s nation, then we are going to suffer greatly. The idea that Donald Trump is trying to do by repurposing the American worker, the American character, to bring manufacturing back, to make us a wartime power again, where we could build a ship a day like we did in World War II, we could build 30,000 bombers a month like we did in World War II, we could do the things that we used to do when we were a powerhouse that today we are not able to do because we have a country full of workers who are serving you hamburgers, serving you dinner, serving you at Walmart or Target, or pushing pencils doing this job or that job, or working for government. I think about, I don’t know, probably 25 percent of the workforce is working for some form of government agency, be it a government federal agency, state agency, a local government, or a company working just for the government, and that is a problem. It’s a problem because we are becoming a nation that is softening up, dumbing down, and going to be defeated in our next war no matter what we do about bringing back manufacturing if we don’t change our ways.

The plain truth is I find that most Americans simply really do not want to change their ways, and the more we just put tariffs on our friends and our enemies and we really don’t have the products we need from them from any other source, we are just shooting ourselves in the foot, or as Ronald Reagan said in a program we played a few weeks ago, it’s like two people in a boat and one gets mad at the other and he says I’m going to shoot a hole in this boat and he takes his shotgun and blows a hole in the bottom of the boat, and the other guy said well I’m going to get even with you and I’m going to shoot another hole in the bottom of the boat and that’ll teach you, and all the result is they both drown only quicker because of the two holes in the boat versus the one. It’s time we learn as a country that we have to regain the spirit and the belief in God that we had 100 years ago. There was a reason why, and I had a show about this, there was a reason why the richest people in the world gave up their seat in a life raft so women and children could be there and go down with the Titanic. The two richest men in the world, John Jacob Astor and Guggenheim, I don’t remember his first name, who famously said no woman shall die on this ship because whatever his name, Guggenheim, took her seat. That is a spirituality, that is a belief in God, that is a belief in doing the right thing that I’m afraid is lacking with many Americans today, especially amongst the elite Americans who live a pretty cushy life in these bad times, and these are bad times. If the average person out there is sinking, they’re sinking in the mud, for example, of debt and of just joblessness and drug abuse and one thing after another.

We are sinking as a nation and we have to get a spirit back that comes from God and then, in my belief, America can be the nation it was again. It can be a powerful world-leading nation that will wag the tail of other countries, and we won’t have our tail wagged by the other countries. We will be the people of the world that the world can respect again and look to again as the world’s greatest country that God did make us. God promised to make us the world’s greatest nation that would ever exist if you knew who our existence is in the Bible. I’ve had many shows and you can read it on different sites of the plain truth, different areas of the plain truth, who we are as a nation and we were promised to be the greatest nation to ever bless the face of this earth until Christ returned and God fulfilled that promise in 1803 with the Louisiana Purchase and the great breadbasket of the world that was our Midwest and then the great warming trends of the 1870s, 80s, 90s where that breadbasket not only fed all of America but fed the entire world and then we went through World War I and World War II and we literally saved the world from tyrants. We saved the world from butchery.

That is what we did, and we did so under God.

We actually had a president, FDR, who made a prayer to God over the radio upon sending our troops on D-Day into France and did so with a prayer to God for their safety and that they would win.

Can you imagine a president today having a radio or television prayer to God? It’s hard to do but Franklin Delano Roosevelt did it and I think America had the character back then to understand it.

We need to have that character back or all of the manufacturing coming back to America is going to do us no good. Character is the number one thing that our president, our Congress, and our people have to work on. Character.

This is Bob Barney for The Plain Truth Today brought to you by theplaintruth.com saying, God bless America. We can still do so, America, but we have to change our ways, and we have to do so and admit our errors to God and God is willing and promises to forgive our sins, heal our land, and make us prosper again.

We can only pray that happens but I’m afraid it’s not going to with our present mentality.

Until the next time, Bob Barney saying goodbye, friends.