Peace in Israel? (Transcript)

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Hello, Bob Barney with the Plain Truth today, and special day today. We have supposedly hostages are being released today, and Donald Trump is coming to the ceremonies in Israel to take his part of it. And I will say, I always tell you when I have fought with Donald Trump, and I always tell you when I think he’s doing a good job.

He did a good job his first time around, especially when it came to the Abraham Accords. If he ever did deserve a Nobel Peace Prize, it would have been for that, which we didn’t get. I’m sorry, he didn’t get, and he didn’t get this year’s as well. But this peace treaty has just not really taken effect yet. But there’s a lot of unanswered questions about how well it’s going to be, how long it’s going to last. I’ve always heard, and I’ve told you this before, every time you hear the word there’s going to be peace, prepare for war.

And I’m not certain that this is going to go as well as people think it’s going to and including Donald Trump and so many of the pundits. Hillary Clinton, I thought I would bring this out, had some good things to say about Donald Trump here, and I’ll play that and then a little bit from Condoleezza Rice. Nora, it does. It’s a really significant first step, and I really commend President Trump and his administration as well as Arab leaders in the region for making the commitment to the 20-point plan and seeing a path forward for what’s often called the day after. Most importantly, the conflict hopefully will end with the ceasefire, the hostages will be returned, and then the very hard work of rebuilding Gaza, of finding the kind of security that Israel and the Palestinians after Hamas deserve to have, moving forward with the other points in the plan to try to create an opportunity for Palestinians to have a better life and for Israel to have greater peace and security. I am very hopeful that we’ll be able to see progress. Today’s a good start, but we have to keep going from here. Well, today may be a good start. It may not be.

Like I said, if you listen to this broadcast very much, you know that we are a news site devoted to what God has to do with the news as well, because you do not understand today’s news unless you understand what God has to say about it. And the only way that I know to do that is to read your Bible and read the prophecies of your Bible that yet have not been fulfilled. And one thing we know is going to happen, that there’s never going to be peace in the Middle East. I wrote an article, I think it’s the first article we ever wrote on theplaintruth.com some, I don’t know, 18 years ago now, and it was that there’s never going to be peace in the Middle East. And when somebody says there’s going to be peace in the Middle East, be prepared for war. But I understand where Hillary Clinton’s coming from in a minute here. We’ll listen to Condoleezza Rice as well. There’s a lot of people thinking that diplomacy may be working here, and Donald Trump gets some credit for that. But like I said, the devil is going to be in the details.

.Next, we’re going to listen to Condoleezza Rice, who was under the Bush administration, and her question to her was, do you think this is going to last? And I want to play her response to that before I finish what I have to say. Well, no one can be completely confident given the history of the Middle East, but I will say there are several elements that I hope will make this particular very important period possible for success. Because as Hillary has said, there are many steps beyond this, but this step has to work first.And there are a couple of things. First of all, just to note that the Rafah crossing through which people are going to come to Gaza or moving, hopefully that can be one that is organized and where you don’t get mass people trying to move at once. It’s a rather narrow crossing.I negotiated the movement and access agreement there in 2005. And so just how that goes will be important. Secondly, I was glad to read that the United States is going to deploy 200 or so civil military personnel for civil military coordination, because we will have capabilities to help in getting people there, getting the humanitarian assistance organized.

Next, we’re going to listen to Condoleezza Rice, who was under the Bush administration, and her question to her was, do you think this is going to last? And I want to play her response to that before I finish what I have to say. Well, no one can be completely confident given the history of the Middle East, but I will say there are several elements that I hope will make this particular very important period possible for success. Because as Hillary has said, there are many steps beyond this, but this step has to work first.And there are a couple of things. First of all, just to note that the Rafah crossing through which people are going to come to Gaza or moving, hopefully that can be one that is organized and where you don’t get mass people trying to move at once. It’s a rather narrow crossing.I negotiated the movement and access agreement there in 2005. And so just how that goes will be important. Secondly, I was glad to read that the United States is going to deploy 200 or so civil military personnel for civil military coordination, because we will have capabilities to help in getting people there, getting the humanitarian assistance organized. And so that’s a step that we’ve not seen before. And even the verification of the beginning of the ceasefire and the movement of Israeli troops to another line was verified by central command of the United States. So there seems to me to be an American role in this. It’s not being overplayed, and that’s the right thing. But we have capabilities to help in this. So I would just say everybody has a stake in this working. The Egyptians will have to manage Rafah, which is not easy. But I feel better about the structure that may help us get through this first phase so that we can move on to the- And she was interrupted there. But anyway, my biggest problem is that American troops are going to be there, and that makes us possible targets. I know what I have read this morning was that no American troops will be in Gaza itself. They will be supporting from outside of Gaza and helping to coordinate everything. And if all else goes well and they can be protected from terrorist bombings or assassinations, that will be good.

Next, we’re going to listen to Condoleezza Rice, who was under the Bush administration, and her question to her was, do you think this is going to last? And I want to play her response to that before I finish what I have to say. Well, no one can be completely confident given the history of the Middle East, but I will say there are several elements that I hope will make this particular very important period possible for success. Because as Hillary has said, there are many steps beyond this, but this step has to work first.And there are a couple of things. First of all, just to note that the Rafah crossing through which people are going to come to Gaza or moving, hopefully that can be one that is organized and where you don’t get mass people trying to move at once. It’s a rather narrow crossing.I negotiated the movement and access agreement there in 2005.

so just how that goes will be important. Secondly, I was glad to read that the United States is going to deploy 200 or so civil military personnel for civil military coordination, because we will have capabilities to help in getting people there, getting the humanitarian assistance organized. And so that’s a step that we’ve not seen before. And even the verification of the beginning of the ceasefire and the movement of Israeli troops to another line was verified by central command of the United States. So there seems to me to be an American role in this. It’s not being overplayed, and that’s the right thing. But we have capabilities to help in this.

So I would just say everybody has a stake in this working. The Egyptians will have to manage Rafah, which is not easy. But I feel better about the structure that may help us get through this first phase so that we can move on to the- And she was interrupted there. But anyway, my biggest problem is that American troops are going to be there, and that makes us possible targets. I know what I have read this morning was that no American troops will be in Gaza itself. They will be supporting from outside of Gaza and helping to coordinate everything. And if all else goes well and they can be protected from terrorist bombings or assassinations, that will be good. But remember, Ronald Reagan, who tried to do a similar thing in Beirut and sending all those Marines into Beirut that were killed with that big explosion back in 1981 or 82, I forgot what exact year it was, but I was just married at the time and I was a lot younger. But Ronald Reagan said it was one of the biggest mistakes of his life, putting troops in harm’s way in the Middle East.

I think that a lot of people who voted for Donald Trump really wished that he would really coordinate and concentrate himself on the economy, which he really was elected. Donald Trump was elected on three things, in my opinion. It was to stop illegal immigration that were criminals in general but stop illegal immigration coming over the border. Number two was deport all of the criminal illegal aliens that came over the border. Criminal, I’m stating. Not everybody that’s been here 25-30 years, even though they came here illegally, I don’t think most Americans voted for Donald Trump for that. The third thing that the people of America voted for Donald Trump was to get this economy back rolling again, like it did during his first administration, and to get prices back down.

I don’t think anybody, including myself, who supported Donald Trump, expected that inflation would still be raging at three percent on top of already 30 or 35 percent inflation that Biden brought us. Prices should have been coming down, and I think eventually they will come down, but not because of a good economy. I think they’re going to come down because I do believe that really soon here we’re going to find ourselves in a terrible recession. I think we’re going to see a pullback on Wall Street. I think gold is going to probably get to $5,000 an ounce before I can even imagine, and silver probably $75 to $80 an ounce. The reason being that they are the hedge against inflation, which is raging still, and they also are a hedge against world conditions. If this peace treaty does not take effect in a good way, and it falls apart really quickly, and I’m afraid that could happen, if that was to be the case, you’re going to see gold and all of these things like that, and oil and other commodities skyrocket in price, which is going to cause more and more demand destruction in American economy, and prices will then come down, but it’s only going to come down because so many Americans are going to be out of work, they’re going to be indigent, and they’re going to be near destitute during this next recession. But getting back to this peace deal, if you go around the world, there is a lot of people that just simply are not trusting that there is really going to be a peace here. I’m going to now broadcast from Germany a German spokesperson.

This person is a news person in Germany, and listen to what she has to say about the potential of this hostage deal, and this peace treaty in Israel. The deal between Israel and Hamas is no guarantee for peace. The first phase will include the release of the remaining Israeli hostages, but here’s what’s missing. One, what will the governance of Gaza look like, and what role will Hamas play? Will they decommission their weapons or even agree to full disarmament? According to Trump’s plan, a committee of Palestinian technocrats will take over, but who are they, and how will they be chosen? And that committee will be overseen by a so-called Board of Peace that will be chaired by Trump himself. It’ll also include former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, but it’s not clear who else will have a seat at the table, and whether it will include any Palestinians. So right there, you’re already seeing some people around the world already seeing through what potential problems with this peace could be deal that Donald Trump’s administration has worked out with Israel and Hamas. I do not believe, in my opinion, I hope I’m wrong. I don’t always want to be right when I’m being negative. I hope I am wrong, but I do not believe Hamas is going to give up power.

I believe what they’re doing now is they are reconnoitering what has been a losing proposition for them since October 7th, two years ago. They won a great victory in their minds against Israel by taking all those hostages, murdering and butchering many of them, and using the hostages to their advantage so they can get better terms for some kind of a peace deal that will actually keep them in power and actually increase their power. And that is what I’m afraid you’re going to find out happening. And if that is the case, and if I am right, you’re going to see real soon a breakdown in this peace deal, just like there was in Iran. Do you remember when I said when we bombed Iran and we allowed that snake to live, there was going to be a retribution from Iran and the rest of the Iran-supporting world based on our attack that did not really do what it was supposed to do? I know you’ve been told by Donald Trump and by our military and by Pete Hegseth that it was a total successful mission and we destroyed their capabilities, but intelligence after the fact shows that we had not done such a thing. And Russia now is telling people openly they’re going to help Iran build back their nuclear power structure.

And are we going to bomb the Russians doing it as well? We won’t touch Russia as it is now. And it’s an open question. And it goes right back to this thing with Hamas. Are we going to really have a deal? What I’m going to play now is from the Detroit Free Press, but it’s actually a Middle East correspondent and their idea about the peace deal between Hamas and Israel. And I’m going to play that right now, so give me a second Israel and Hamas have agreed to a truce deal, raising hopes of peace after two years of devastating war. But does it mean the conflict is finally over? Here is what we know about the deal. Well, first of all, I think it’s a very important achievement. Dr. Sanam Vakil is the director of the Middle East and North Africa program at Chatham House. It’s a 20-point plan that has out of need been broken up into phases. The deal is the first phase of U.S. President Donald Trump’s peace initiative. It involves a ceasefire, a handover of hostages from both sides, and a partial Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. It was hammered out in Sharm el Sheikh, Egypt, and crucial details are yet to be spelled out. Questions like who will govern Gaza, will Hamas disarm, and what guarantees exist that fighting won’t resume remain. So what’s different about this deal? I think the U.S. objective has been to get to the hostage release and prisoner releases and then move on from there. A notable difference this time compared with previous ceasefire agreements is that there is no deadline for a full deal.

Previous ceasefires collapsed when deadlines hit, but the jury is still out on whether that makes this deal more durable. Israel’s finance minister is already calling for Hamas to be destroyed after the hostages return. And while Hamas has agreed to participate in the hostage and prisoner exchange, it has not said it will disarm or disband, a key stipulation of Trump’s proposal. This time, Trump’s also putting his personal stamp on it. There’s talk of a, quote, board of peace led by Trump and Tony Blair, overseeing Gaza’s future with local Palestinian committees running daily services, supervised by international experts. As for what happens next, the Israel defense forces will withdraw and redeploy troops to agreed upon lines within 24 hours of the Israeli government approving the deal. Then Hamas has 72 hours to release hostages. On the Trump’s plan, humanitarian aid to Palestinians should then start to flow. Trump’s expected in Jerusalem on Sunday.

After two years of devastation, families in Tel Aviv and Gaza are celebrating, but whether this brings lasting peace or just another temporary pause remains to be seen. Life as they knew it two years ago will never be the same. They will never get the same sense of dedication and identification and safety and security that they had before. And that’s going to be a problem. I’m telling you right now, nowhere in Israel will they ever feel safe again after what happened two years ago on October 7th, which happens to be the last great day, by the way, of God’s feast. Things always seem to happen during the feast, but it’s never going to be the same. And people think it’s going to be the same or better with this peace treaty, but there is never going to be a real satisfaction amongst the Israelis, particularly, that they’re safe from Hamas. And I’m going to tell you right now, I do not believe Hamas is going to give up their arms. I don’t believe they’re going to try to give up control of Gaza. I just believe they’re going to go underground a little bit for a while, recuperate, rearm, get stronger again, and this whole mess is going to start all over again. That has been the Middle East since I’ve been alive, since my father’s been alive, my grandfather’s been alive, and since there’s been Jews back in Israel since 1890s. That’s just the case that it’s going to be.

Are you aware, I had an article written about, I don’t know, five, six, seven years ago now, about Jerusalem being the second most holy city in Islam, or some people say the third most holy city in Islam. Do you know that’s a lie? Do you know, up until the Jews moved back to Israel, that the Temple Mount in Israel, under the leadership of the Muslims, it was not an important site at all. It was not a visitation site. It was not a site that they considered even holy at all. Are you aware of that? Mecca, of course, is the holiest site, and they had other holy sites, but when the Jews moved back into Palestine in the 1890s, and they got, under the British, the Balfour Declaration, they got the permission to really move there in mass, and start worshiping their God again back in Jerusalem. All of a sudden, amongst Muslims, Jerusalem and the Temple Mount became the third most holiest, and some people say the second most holiest site in all of Islam, and it’s just a crock.

It’s never been the case, and unfortunately, mainstream media has propagated that false statement that Jerusalem is so holy to the Muslims. The only thing Jerusalem represents to the Muslims is to keep Israel out and to destroy all Jews. The basis of Hamas, the basis of Iran, and the basis of most of the Muslim religion, I’m not talking about these Muslims that are peace-loving Muslims, and there are some mainstream Muslims which are not part of the radical Muslim element, which is the majority of the Muslims today are the radical, at least, I won’t say the majority of the people, but the majority of the people that you are seeing doing anything, are these radical Muslims who want to see the extermination of all Jews from the face of the earth. They’re no different than a Hitler, from a Nazi, or from many Americans, for that matter, who hate the Jews just as bad as we’re seeing recently. But going back to this peace deal, I want to wrap up this with a article that I watched on YouTube, and I’m going to play it now for you. It comes from CBN, which was Pat Robertson’s station before he died.

His son still runs it, and it’s entitled, Does the Ceasefire Deal with Hamas Create a Future Problem for Israel? And I thought it was pretty interesting, and so we’re going to play that right now. An historic deal in the Middle East after two years of war, Israel and Hamas have agreed to pause the fighting in Gaza and free the hostages. The families of the captives are celebrating as they await the return of their loved ones. Chris Mitchell reports from Jerusalem with us. Great to be with you, Gordon. Big day here in Israel. I imagine it’s a day of jubilation. When can we expect the hostages to finally come home? Well, we understand once the government, and it should be any hour here in Israel, will agree to the deal, then they will start a 72-hour time clock where the hostages will be released. Now there’s a lot of different timetables going on in terms of when that 72 hours will actually happen, and will the live hostages be released first, and then the dead hostages. But we can expect probably in three days, 72 hours, when at least some of the live hostages and the deceased ones would be released. And that has spawned a lot of jubilation here in Israel. And let me give you one other point I just learned a few hours ago, Gordon.

Every live hostages is going to receive 50,000 shekels as a one-time payment, and then 9,000 shekels per month for the rest of their lives. 9,000 shekels is probably about two and a half dollars, and 50,000 shekels is about $15,000. So they’re going to be rewarded for surviving for two years in these Hamas dungeons. I’m not sure it’s a reward as much as survivor pay. So let’s just talk about the negotiations. This is the first phase. What are some of the sticking points still to be discussed? Well, the big sticking point in the second phase will be disarming Hamas. Who’s going to do that? Will they disarm? That remains to be seen. And who’s actually going to monitor that? Is it going to be what’s called the ISF, this International Stabilization Force, presumably made up of maybe members from the UAE or soldiers from the UAE and Saudi Arabia and maybe some other nations? And will they be able to disarm Hamas? Hamas has been saying in the past, you know, we’ll give up our offensive weapons. Presumably, that would include rockets or missiles. But we want to keep our defensive weapons, and that would, I assume, AK-47s, maybe RPGs. So this is some of the sticking points going forward.

But there are many people say that it’s so important to make sure that Hamas does disarm and doesn’t play any role in a post-war Gaza. Is this going to be anything like the previous peace forces? I mean, the UN had control over a, quote, buffer zone, close quote, in southern Lebanon. And here, Hezbollah was building tunnels right near the bases of the UN troops. And they had these guard towers. I mean, they obviously could see what was going on, but they still refuse to do anything. So if the UN can’t do it, do we really trust that, you know, UAE troops or Saudi Arabian troops can do it? It’s a great point, Gordon. What I think might be a difference here would be President Trump is going to be head of this board of peace that’s going to, you know, oversee the new Gaza or rebuilding Gaza. He may not tolerate any sort of a UNIFIL or UN force that really doesn’t do its job. Well, the problem is Donald Trump won’t be the person on the board or looking himself. He’s going to have to rely on what’s told to him. And like I said, the Bible is the ultimate decision maker of what’s going to happen in the future. And I’m afraid to say there’s always going to be war in the Middle East as long as you and I are alive until Christ returns to this earth.

And so we hope this stuff happens. We’re happy to see hostages, whatever ones are still alive, are released. But just don’t think for one moment that this situation is finalized, that Trump brought peace to the world and that, you know, he’s like an Antichrist figure that some people who hate Trump think he is or that he’s a Messiah figure like the ever-Trumpers think he is. There will not be peace in the Middle East in your lifetime or my lifetime unless, of course, we’re alive to see Jesus Christ return to this earth and bring peace to the Middle East and bring peace to the world whether we like it or not. As I’ve always said, Christ is not coming back when he reigns as King of King and Lord of Lords. He’s not coming back with a democracy. We’re not going to vote for the King Jesus. He’s going to announce himself as King of the universe and that’s what he is. And if you like it or not, that’s what he’s going to do.If you don’t like it, don’t have to worry very long because you won’t be around very long if you don’t like it. But anyway, that’s the story today. We’ll have to follow this in the next weeks to come.

What is going to happen in the Middle East, especially in Israel between Hamas and the Gaza Strip? And how long will this peace last? What will happen with the hostages and the dead hostages? What’s going to happen with the disarmament of Hamas? We’ll see all of that. But I just want to finish up the show again talking about ThePlainTruth.com’s mission because there’s always new people joining and so not everybody always hears this. But ThePlainTruth.com is not a religion.We are a news source. But what we do different than other news sources is we understand that there is a God. There is a God Almighty and we also understand that the God that is real is the God that you find in the pages of your Bible.The word God in your Bible in the Old Testament comes from the word Elohim and in the New Testament from the Greek word Theos. Both terms mean a Godhead, meaning more than one members of one unit. For example, you may be a Barney.You’re part of the Barney family. I’m part of the Barney family. But there is more than one Barney in that family.Well, that’s the same with the word Elohim found in the Old Testament or Theos found in the New Testament. There is one God. There is one Elohim. There is one Barney family, for example, but there are many members of it. And of the Godhead presently, there is only God the Father and God Jesus Christ and the two are comprised of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not a God.It is what God is, what God is made out of. God is the Holy Spirit. And people are made in the image of God and we are male and female and our version of the Holy Spirit is the blood that runs in our veins that keeps us alive.If your blood isn’t going through your veins, you won’t be alive very long. So, we are male and female with blood as our living force and God is the Father and the Son with the Holy Spirit as their living force. And they are the newsmakers of the world from the time it began until the time it ends.

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