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Hello, this is Bob Barney with The Plain Truth today, brought to you by theplaintruth.com, the one place you want to go to every day to find out what’s going on in the world and what it means for you and your family and your future. I’m going to talk about a different subject today, and this is something that has peeved me for a long time. It’s basically something I haven’t talked about very much when it comes to taxes. If one remembers their school and their history back in the day…
0:31 I don’t know how old each person is listening to this, but we remember that the American Revolution, one of the things that the colonialist was fighting over and had a problem with England was they were being taxed yet they had no representative in the Parliament in England and they did not want taxation without representation. And it was a founding principle of the United States of America. In fact, when this was going on, there was a famous Stamp Act passed about five or six,
1:08 seven years before the actual battle began with the Revolution, which basically began in Boston, and where the English, trying to pay their debts off, had a Stamp Act, which meant that everything had to have a stamp on it in certain things. One thing, close to my heart, paint was taxed, all letters and papers and newspapers were taxed and tea was taxed. And we had of course the famous Boston Tea Party where patriots dressed up as Indians went out to throw the tea overboard which really got English Parliament very, very ticked
1:48 off at the Americans and they ended up sending troops to Boston, which was the beginning of all of the problems between the British and the American colonialists, who at this time still thought themselves as British subjects. And within a few years of the harsh treatment that the government of Great Britain did to the American people turned the Americans where they no longer saw themselves as British citizens, they saw themselves as Americans and they were now seeing
2:19 themselves as something different than what they used to consider themselves. And it was a pretty quick thing to happen when you really think about the long term. We were already here since about 1607, say 1620 with the Pilgrims, so you had all the 1600s and half of the 1700s, 150 years of colonial America where they all considered themselves British subjects under the crown and within a 15-year span Americans went from being British subjects to American people and that became the beginning of the
2:59 American character as we know it. Now what I wanted to talk about is this premise of taxation without representation what I wanted to talk about is this premise of taxation without representation. And I want to get into something that has, like I said, has been a sore spot for me for many years. Because I think a lot of Americans are right now being taxed by a government that they have no representation in. And I’m not talking about the federal government here. I’m talking about state and local
3:28governments. Let’s say, for example, you are a business owner, and there are quite a few small business owners in America. And let’s say you live in a small town called small town A, but your business is located in another county next door in small town B. And so you pay property taxes in the town you live in and you pay property sales tax and many other business type taxes in the county and town that you do your business in. When election time comes you can only vote in the town where you live, but not necessarily
4:08 where your business is. Now think of the ramifications for that. Let’s say you have a home worth, I don’t know, $300,000, $400,000, and you’re paying property taxes on that $400,000, which makes you a property owner, and you can vote in that county, and you can vote for your county government, your state government, your federal government, and your local government because
4:30 you have a vested interest is how the forefathers saw this idea of voting. But now you have a business, say you have a business worth $20 million in the town next door in another county and you are subject to town rules and town regulations, zoning rules, zoning regulations. You are subject to the sales tax that you collect for that state in that town. And so you may actually be spending more tax money in the town that you do not live in than
5:03the town that you do live in. And when election time comes for like, say, the town mayor or the city council government, or even your local county executives or the county sheriff, you cannot vote. Is that not a form of taxation without representation? Well, I say it is. And I say
5:27 that, especially with the modern world that we live in, that you could easily register and be proven to where you live and where you work. You have tax records of where you work. You have state filings, most likely corporate filings, I say you should be able to pick what town you live in to vote for president, for example, or for your senator, maybe even for your congressman. And that could be something we could talk about on a different subject because what happens if your congressman
6:02for your district is not the same as the congressman in the district where your business is? And the congressman where your business is is probably the most important federal official you could actually have contact with, yet you can’t vote for him. Think about that. And that is, in my opinion, especially for business owners across the country, taxation without representation. And like I said, it seems to me that it would not be a very difficult thing indeed to be able to vote in local elections in both
6:36communities where you have a business. And let’s say you have a business in another state and in another area where you have another 20 million dollar operation going. Should you not at least be able to vote in that state’s local elections there as well? And then I also say should you not be able to vote for the governor of that state or state senators or state legislative people who make decisions on your business? Now I know people are gonna say,
7:07 well, your business is really its own living entity. It’s a living human being and you may own stock in it, but especially if it’s a C corporation, it’s not your really business. So you don’t have a right to vote for that business. Well, I beg to differ because nowhere
7:22 does the government regulations on voting allow a business to vote. It does allow businesses to send donations to candidates. That’s called free speech and the Supreme Court has allowed that to continue. And I know a lot of Democrats especially wanted to see that end, but the Supreme Court says that a business is a living entity and it has a right for its free speech to give money to the candidate it wishes.
7:48Then why shouldn’t that business also have the right to vote? And you could say the board of directors, or RV, that business should be able to vote for its town council of that city, or the city mayor, or the city police,
8:03 if that’s up for vote or the county sheriff is always up for vote and maybe in another state even the legislative body the legislative and the state Senate and the governorship because again you might be spending more money in another state than the state you actually live in. Now I know people are gonna say well then and people are gonna vote it’s going on right now we have all this bad voting. We have bad voting because the Democrats mainly and some Republicans want to have
8:32 fishy voting and people who are not even a legal American citizens to vote. We’re not talking about fraud here. We’re talking about it’s very easy to have voting cards and identification to be able to, if you wanted to, to vote for your business in whatever city, town, state your business is in for at least city and local government. Because again, much of your future of that business, if it’s going to make money or not
9:01 or even stay in business, depends on how that local government treats you. And if you have some power with the vote, and also you can donate now to candidates in any place you have a business, but I just think that taxation without representation should be expanded in this modern computer age when it’s very easy to see who’s voting, who’s illegally voting, who don’t have a right to vote. And by the way, it can be done very easily and this idea, which we know the 2020 election, there were dead people voting and
9:36all kinds of 1500 people registered to vote from the same house in Texas. We know those stories and I know the mainstream media and the Democratic Party are trying to poo-poo the idea that the 2020 election was stolen, but I do believe to this day that the 2020 election was stolen, and I’m starting to think that many other elections in the past were stolen, presidential elections I’m talking about, but not just presidential elections how many times
10:05 in the last twenty twenty five years and we’ve seen election night that a certain congressman is voted in but with a pretty good margin with ninety nine percent of the votes counted but the next morning we’ve listened to the news again and found out that he lost because the one percent they counted
10:22 was a hundred and ten percent for the opponent. And you know that that vote was stolen. And you know that this is how the Democrats especially, and I think the Republicans are trying to do this right now with redistricting in the middle of a 10-year cycle of when you can redistrict. I think the Republicans are trying to do what the Democrats did, and to sway elections and to keep Congress under their control. The idea of counting illegal immigrants in your community in the population census, that’s
10:55 bogus. You should only be counting the people who the country is legal for to be there, and that would only be American-born citizens or American citizens by naturalization. They’re the only people that should be counted in the census in order to reapportion Congress. To me, it’s the only common-sense thing to do. But that’s only one of the things that I have a
11:21 problem with with the present-day taxation that goes on. I have another question for you. Do you own the diamond ring that you gave your wife or your wife, if you’re the woman listening, the diamond ring, let’s say it’s worth $10,000. Do you own that? Well, yes, your husband, or you bought it for yourself,
11:40bought this nice ring or this nice Rolex locks. You paid sales tax when you bought it, it’s yours, you can keep it in your home, and when you die you can pass it off to your children and it may be subject then to inheritance taxes, but you don’t pay property tax on the diamonds you own or on the gold you own or on the particular furniture you have in that home. the particular furniture you have in that home, then why should you have to
12:07 pay property taxes on the property you own, the home you own? If you own it, then you shouldn’t have to pay tax. You only pay tax on something the government lays claim to saying it’s theirs. Am I not right? So let’s say you own a, and this happens more often than people want to even believe or they or they are even in knowledge of. Let’s say you’re an elderly couple and you own a home that’s worth a hundred and twenty thousand dollars and you own it free and clear and you’re
12:43 really hurting for money, especially in these bad economic times, and you own it free and clear and you’re really hurting for money especially in these bad economic times and you start forgetting and maybe you have a beginning of Alzheimer’s maybe you have some memory problems but for some reason you don’t pay your property taxes and for three years go by four years go by you might get some notices by then you can’t really afford to pay them. Maybe it’s up to four or $5,000. You don’t have that kind of money.
13:10 You’re barely making it now. And the government takes over your home and they put it up for sale for a four or $5,000 debt, even less, that on a piece of property that you bought and paid hard-earned money for, maybe $120,000 with interest, maybe $250,000, and you lose your place as a senior citizen
13:33 because you did not pay a fraction of the money you have for taxes, property taxes. So the question that I have, and I’ve asked many people this for the last 40 years, you know, 50 or 48 years ago I was in politics in Connecticut, small-town politics, but I asked a question back then when I was in government, local government that is. I said, how do you say you own your house when really the government owns your house if you don’t pay taxes on it? And I used to have the people would look at me like they never thought of that, number one. owns your house if you don’t pay taxes on it. And I used to have, the
14:05 people would look at me like they never thought of that, number one. Number two is well it’s always done, how else would we make our money? Well maybe there’s other ways you can make your money, but if somebody owns something they should not pay taxes on it. And I said do you pay tax on the diamond ring you’re wearing or the gold ring you’re wearing? Do you pay taxes on the new big screen TV that you just bought?
14:29 Or the nice piece of furniture you just bought? You bought a $10,000 desk, a special desk you always wanted for. You don’t pay property tax on that, but you have to on your home, then you don’t own your home.
14:41You’re merely renting that home from the government. Think about that and I’ll be right back. Bob Barney for the Plain Truth today, the place to go to every day to hear what’s going on in the world and what it means for you and your family. That’s the Plain Truth today. You get there from theplaintruth.com where you can also go to the message board, see what’s going on in the world and to your health today
15:07 and see what you maybe should be doing to help your health. Well, we’re back about taxation without representation. And it’s not just where you can vote. And even though we got into the fact that you might have businesses in different places, yet you can only vote
15:25 for local government in one place, the place you live, where you may even be renting and not even own property in the place you live, but you got to vote there. But where your money is made, where you need representation in government, you can’t vote for a city and local governments. Think about that. Well, we also talked about before the break, and
15:45 something is just as bad about taxation in general, how can anyone explain to me why you should pay property tax on the home that you own free and clear? And yet you have to pay property tax, and if you don’t, the government will confiscate your property, sell it at auction, and in and many cases and I know this is the plain truth, many cases the government leaders who go and foreclose on these senior citizen properties especially, they are in cahoots with the people who are going
16:19 to buy a hundred and fifty hundred and eighty thousand piece of property free and clear and they end up buying it for six or seven or ten thousand dollars because nobody else is bidding or knows about the bid. Yes, they publish every auction in a newspaper but who really reads that section of the newspaper today in today’s age? Very few people. And so you have city officials in cahoots with builders and contractors who are paying
16:43 them off on the side to make sure they get pieces of property from senior citizens mainly that they throw out onto the streets and it becomes another homeless case here or they’re forced into an old age home when they thought they had taken care of themselves their whole life paying taxes doing the things you’re supposed to do as a good American and you find out you don’t own a home and you never did own a home,
17:05 you merely rented it from your local government. The same applies to cars. Now, what people say about cars is cars are not the property that you really own, they are taxable because driving a car is a right. Well, I don’t even believe that.
17:21 I come from a state, Virginia, that has personal property taxes on cars. When I first moved here in 1996, before Governor Gilmour, the only Republican governor that’s ever really helped my pocketbook, when I first moved here, some people with new expensive cars paid more money a year for the property tax on the vehicle. I’m talking about four, five, six, seven thousand money a year for the property tax on the vehicle. I’m talking about four, five, six, $7,000 a year
17:48 vehicle property tax than they did for the insurance on that vehicle. And sometimes even as much as they did it for the yearly payment on that vehicle on their loan. Is that fair? Is that right?
18:01 So they didn’t ever own that vehicle. And other states like Florida did not have personal property taxes where I came from on vehicles. So some states know how to do it, some states do not. But all states rely on property taxes as a form of income for their local city. And in my opinion, where they should be getting their money from, number one, is from the sales tax of things sold in their district.
18:30 When people go and buy or they stay in a hotel or they go to a restaurant, and that doesn’t mean just citizens of that town, it means any tourists you have, they’re paying your government the money they need to stay in business. I can even see a business license fee to help local governments as well as a form of a tax. But the idea that you pay tax on property to the local government is to me taxation without representation. And that is something that I do think
19:03 American people should start looking at. I do think we need to come to a whole new idea about taxation in this country and this is not a republican issue or democrat issue because the truth is both parties and i remember uh… one of the talk show host I think it was uh… Michael Savage
19:22 who said our government is really only one turkey with two wings one wing is a republican in the other wing is a little is a democrat but that that the two wings make up the same turkey and it is absolutely a farce of a government system that we have and i somewhat think
19:40 that we really have to look at our government and our taxation and a whole new light in the 21st century where we have computers and we have ways to track things and ways of making money for local cities that you never made before.
19:53 For example, in our area of Virginia, they have this new rule that if there’s a school open, they can put up a camera and anybody who speeds through the school zone when the light is flashing, they just send them a ticket in the mail and there are cities like Suffolk and now they did it in Wakefield where they’re making tens of thousands
20:13 of dollars a month off speeders speeding through town. Well that may be in my opinion a little unethical a little shyous, but it is legal to do that. And there is a way that cities can make money. They make money. Most of the time today when we go by and watch police officers giving tickets for speeders and stuff like that, most of the time it’s not for your safety or the safety of the public
20:37 you’re handing out tickets. They have a quota. They all deny they have a quota, but they have a quota, but they have a quota and their job is to be the tax collector for that town and they really up in a lot of communities I think especially in the south but a lot of communities they really look for out-of-state license plates on these highways
20:54 that were mainly the traffic on the highway our tourists coming to like in our case Virginia Beach yeah four five hundred thousand cars a week go down four sixty and you’re really raping the money away from you know New Yorkers, people from Connecticut, Pennsylvania, all over the rest of the country trying to go to Virginia Beach. And like I said I think it’s unscrupulous maybe unless you’re
21:17 gonna set the limit to be like ten over the speed limit or something where you could really justify it. But there are places that I know for a fact, they give tickets to cars going four or five or six miles an hour over the speed limit. And a lot of digital speedometers are not even accurate at five miles an hour difference.
21:35 And this is a way the cities make money. But my point is cities can make money in many ways, sales taxes, uses taxes, utility taxes, there’s all kinds of things cities could do to make money they should not be making money off of people’s personal property that they should be able to own without paying taxes and their home is the
21:54 biggest investment they have and that’s just what i think and i think if you really study it and think about what i just said i don’t think you could come
22:05up with a good argument against it except the government wants to rape and steal and take your money away from you so they have money that they can spend on worthless projects and just waste money because they’re getting kickbacks from the contractor doing this or doing that project in town. I think most towns in America and most cities in America, they actually abuse the money they rob away from their people in personal property taxes and property taxes in general and they do it to award their people who gave them money for their elections projects that are not
22:39even needed in that town. And I know the town that I came from, the money they spend to buy parks and have people take care of the parks, it’s absolutely a waste of money. And they don’t care about wasting money because they’re stealing it from the people who own the homes in that town. So I think one of the things that Americans have to do as we go forward, I’m not for a constitutional convention by the way, to
23:05 rewrite the Constitution. I think the Constitution as written, if we just followed it, it’s like the Bible. You know, if people just followed the words on the page of the Bible and they followed what God said to do, you know, we wouldn’t have crime. We wouldn’t have people robbing and raping and murdering people. We wouldn’t have the people doing the crimes that they do or anything of the such. We would have a great society if people just read the Bible and followed what it said to do. Well, the same thing applies to the
23:37 United States Constitution. If we followed the United States Constitution and followed it to the letter of the law and our legal system and our court system and our Supreme Court would follow that Constitution, we would have a very good government. We do not need to rob its own citizens of their wealth in order for crooked politicians to continue their crooked, deceitful, money-grubbing ways. That is what’s happening in America today. So I’m not looking to rearrange the federal government.
24:08 I would like to rein in the power of the federal government and Donald Trump, by the way, is just like any other Democrat. He’s trying to usurp as much state rights and federal government rights as possible for a federal bureaucracy that is just spending money and spending money and spending money and spending money, and we don’t have the money to spend. We’re thirty-seven trillion dollars in debt after the big so-called beautiful bill, I call it the big ugly bill, we’re gonna be a lot more in debt. We’re probably gonna
24:38 be fifty trillion dollars in debt in another ten years or less and eventually this country is going to collapse upon itself and they have robbed the average American out of all of their wealth by taxing their property and taxing their cars and taxing everything they own if they can get away with it, that there is not going to be the money in this country to buy our way out of the debt. That’s why I did a program, and I might replay this program in the Best of Bob series.
25:08 That’s why I did a program several months ago about this whole idea, this country is gonna fall. This country has gone beyond, in my opinion now, we have gone beyond the point of no return. You know, when a jet is taken off, there is that V, the V something,
25:24 I can’t think of the word for it now, that when you’re going down the runway, there is a certain time that you have to take off. You can aboard up until a certain time, but after that time, you reach that V thing that you have to take off. And even if that means you may end up crashing because you don’t really have the lift to take off, but you cannot stop the flow of that plane driving down now it’s going 150 miles an hour, you can’t stop it safely on a runway.
25:53 And the same thing with this government. We have gone so far in debt around the world. We owe money to every nation of this world and people of all over this world. We do not have the money to pay it back. And I got news for you, I don’t even think today we could grow our way out of it. We had an 8% GDP because we are just spending money that is not
26:14 our own. There is a, and I wish somebody would do it, anybody listening to this would do this search. Go a search engine and put in Davy Crockett, it’s not yours to give. I have on the Plain Truth message board and maybe even the main page of the Plain Truth, I have published this letter that he wrote when he was a congressman about giving money away they had no right to give. And it was all about a time when they were standing in Washington, D.C. and they watched an apartment complex in Baltimore catch fire and they saw saw it burned to the ground and the next day
26:48 they were going to appropriate a million or two million dollars to rebuild that because they felt sorry for the people there and when David Crockett went back to his hometown for re-election one of the big most powerful uh… influencers of that town you know the like the tick tock influencer of the day said i can’t vote for you because you obviously never read the Constitution.
27:07 You got to read that letter. It’s not yours to give. He said, how many other houses burnt down that night you didn’t watch burn down in Congress? How many of those people did you send money to? You have no right to take our hard-earned tax money and spend it for yourself. If you wanted to… You guys are all rich in Congress. If you really wanted to take care of those poor people in Baltimore, use your own money. Take your own money out of your own pocket
27:3 1and build that house. But no, you want to take my money that I paid in taxes and what I’m saying today that you actually stole from me in taxes and you’re gonna be the good guy and you’re gonna give welfare to this group and welfare to this farmer and welfare to this business
27:45 with somebody else’s money.
And I got to say right now, we are at a point of no return. I think we are like ancient Rome, the Hun living amongst us is gonna eventually say, why don’t we just kill these people off
28:01 and we just have this all for ourselves? Because we have, we have really buried ourselves in this nation in debt and i see no one right now willing to face up to that fact and do something about it
28:15 that’s my take on property taxes and taxation without representation and i hope people think about this and talk about it and i think there’s a lot more support of what I say should happen than you may even think listening to this program right now.
So until tomorrow, Bob Barney for the Plain Truth Today and 28:34 taxes, death and taxes, it’s always the sure thing, they say.
Until tomorrow, saying thank you for listening. We do appreciate you, and bye-bye.