The Fair Tax and the End of the IRS (TRANSCRIPT)

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Hi, this is Bob Barney, for The Plain Truth Today, brought to you by The Plain Truth dot com.

Something that we hear from our leaders mainly from the Democrats but also from both sides of the aisle, is they want everybody to pay their fair share of taxes. 

I have a question for you. What is your fair share? How much of your income should the government get? Five percent? Ten percent? Fifty percent? Or like it was in the 1950’s where the very rich had a 90 percent tax bracket? What is fair?

2:32 Are you aware that God thinks that ten percent is fair for him? You know when ancient Israel was set up, it was a theocracy and led by God. He was a king before any kings and the people were told that they were to tithe; all tithe means, as many people do not know this, tithe means it is old English for a tenth.

God wanted a tenth of your increase each year. That was what God thought was fair taxes. Today, we have people paying anywhere from a low of maybe 4 or 5 percent taxes to 35-50 percent of taxes. When you talk about taxes you have to understand there are many forms of taxes, not just income tax.

I have railed that the income tax actually breaks The Ten Commandments. It covets what your neighbor makes, and it is about stealing through taxation. On top of that there are so many different taxes that the American people face today, again, if we were to go back to 1776 and the people in Philadelphia were all of the sudden transported to America in 2023 and they saw the tax burden that the average citizen has, they wouldn’t believe it. They wouldn’t believe that we would stomach it or not take up arms frankly and start a revolution.

 The people in colonial America had probably 9/10ths less taxes than we have today. You have an income tax, many people have a state income tax, a sales tax, a personal property tax and if you live in VA, you have a tax on the things that you own. Many people listening to this may not be from VA but if you own a car worth less than 45 thousand dollars which is not that big of a car today. that every year the state of VA is going to tax that car and it’s probably going to be in the 2000-dollar range. You are going to pay more money in personal property taxes on a new vehicle then you are going to pay for insurance.

5:25 I know people that have big trucks worth over 100 thousand dollars, they have a 6–7-thousand-dollar property tax on their vehicle!  On top of that you have taxes on your property like I have said…everything you own is taxed. For the most part bank account interest is taxed and if you are a farmer for example, all of your equipment is taxed. Plows and tractors, even your livestock is taxed. If you figure out the tax burden on say the very rich of everything they really produce in taxes between property and possession taxes, income tax, dividend taxes, they probably pay about a third of all of their income in taxes. They are actually maybe lower than some of the poor middle class people that are in the 50-60 percentile. Not everyone is fortunate to live in Florida where there is no state income tax and no personal property tax on your vehicle, but many people live in VA, MA, CT, NY CA, where the tax burden on the middle class is just absolutely stifling. It is causing people to go into debt and not to be able to have a good lifestyle because of taxes.

How much are enough taxes? They say death and taxes, well, I got news for you, the tax rate in America is causing deaths of many people because many people have a heart attack when they open up their personal tax bill! 

The money is given to a tax that is unfair! 

Another question for you…

Do you own any property? Well, I can guarantee that if you are a USA citizen, you do not own any land…you rent it from the government. The proof? Don’t pay a 200-dollar tax bill on your property and in about 4 years you will see your property auctioned off by the county or the town and sold and you are evicted. Why? Because you don’t own that property, the state or the local government owns it. 

Anything you pay a tax on you do not own; you are renting. Is that fair? Is that what the Forefathers had in mind and is that what God has in mind?

8:10 God says in HIs Word that everything you have comes from God. Everything you earn is because of a blessing from God and He only expects ten percent. Your government leaders who are not God and they are the farthest thing from God you would ever find as they are immoral, even sexual deviants most of them, who don’t think ten percent is enough, not even 50 percent.

People like Elizabeth Warren want to go back to a 90-percent rate. Of course, she will excuse herself and say she is an American Indian. She is about as much Indian as a turkey is a bald eagle. 

Taxes are stifling this country, and it is one of the many things that happens to be driving this country into poverty. People are going into poverty! Because of taxation!

Now there are some answers to all of this by the way. I have mentioned this in an earlier broadcast about what I would do, if I were president. I honestly wouldn’t want that job; however, a president could turn the economy around in a millisecond. How? By abolishing the IRS and the income tax.

The income tax is regressive in that it forces people not to work and pushes people to an underground cash society, so they do not pay taxes. As a result, the government gets less revenue with an income tax then they would if they had some other form of taxation.

The only kind of taxation honestly that is fair is a usage or a tariff tax.

That is what our Forefathers had intended for us. If you want to go and buy something, then you pay a national sales tax. For example, if you go and buy a coat and live in a state that has sales tax, you will pay up to 9 percent sales tax on it. There is an organization called the Fair Tax out there promoting the idea that people should not pay income tax, and that the IRS should be abolished.

No one would have to worry about an Income Tax Day. No one would have to worry about what comes out of their payroll. Whatever their check is from their employer, they would have 100 percent of it. Nothing would go to Social Security, Medicare, or FICA. They would keep it all. In fact, they would receive from the government, on top of their pay, they would receive from the government a check for anywhere from $500 to $750 a month per person in their household.

11:58 So, let’s say you are a family of four and you are making 50 thousand dollars a year. You would take home a $1000 a week 11check without anything taken out of it and receive a $2000 check from the government. Every month. Just for being an American citizen. How could this happen? You may think this doesn’t make any sense. Where would the money come from? Well, I am not a Republican or a Democrat spending your money. You put it in a national sales tax which most people say would be about 15 percent, so no one pays an income tax, no one has to worry about accountants or the IRS showing up on their doorstep with threats of taking away everything you have. With the IRS you have to prove yourself innocent. Our system of justice is supposed to be that our system has to prove you are guilty. I have never but maybe after this broadcast I will, but if you have a problem with them, you are not going to find too many attorneys that are going to fight for you.

A friend of mine, many years ago had a problem with the IRS. The IRS was wrong, and my friend was a corporation and was going to fight it. The judge said that he cannot represent this corporation himself and that he had to hire a lawyer.  A little-known fact that you may not know, if you are running a corporation or you own a corporation, this is a living being according to our government…you cannot go to court and represent that corporation. Lawyers love to take care of their own. You know, in the law, if you are a corporation, you must hire an attorney to represent your corporation and law. So if you are going to sue anyone then you have to have an atty. IF you are going to sue the IRS saying they have no right levying a fine on you that you don’t owe, you cannot fight this yourself, because you are a corporation. However, you can if you are a 1040 employee. Good luck trying to find an attorney in this particular case.  When my friend told me he knew he was right and was told by the judge he couldn’t represent himself or his corporation wound up having 35 attorneys turn him down, one admitting that if he took his case, he would be audited for the rest of his life. That is FEAR. Even attorneys fear of the IRS.

  The IRS is like the Gestapo of an American justice system.

It is about time that people find out about and read about the Fair Tax. It is time to abolish the IRS and Get rid of every IRS agent, and get rid of every IRS employee, and go to a national sales tax. 

This is how that national sales tax works. You get a check. If you’re a family of four and you’re making, say, your wife and you together are making $1,000 a week, make it easy. You’re going to take home $1,000 a week. So, you start with $50,000 a year, $1,000 a week, $52,000 a year, I guess that would be. Then you get a check for $2,000, $500 for you, $500 for your wife, $500 for each child. So, your week or your month, you’re going to get on average, you know, $4,000 with no taxes taken out and another $2,000 from the government to spend however you want to spend. Now when you go to a store and you buy anything, including food, you’re going to pay a 15% tax. That is where the money comes from. Now you say to yourself, well, how’s that going to work? I’m going to pay more money that way. Well, maybe if you’re a drug dealer, you are, because they don’t pay income taxes. Maybe if you’re a prostitute, it’s not good for you because they don’t pay income tax. Maybe if you’re a criminal, or maybe if you’re Hunter Biden and you can hide everything and not pay taxes, you might not like that idea. The rich definitely wouldn’t like that idea because everything they buy, there would be a 15% tax on it. Their yachts and their limousines and their private airplanes would have a 15% tax on it.

Now you understand where the money would come from. The money would come from consuming, not working…not labor.

When you tax labor, you cause harm to the productivity of an employee.

15:02 I think most people listening to this broadcast would be people who actually work every day and hard for a living. They get a check for $1,000 on the top line, and there’s $285 taken out for FICA, and there’s $52 taken out for Social Security, and another $11.14 for Medicare, and then all of the sudden they’re taking home $711 out of the $1,000 check. They don’t get a $2,000 check from the government at the end of the month. How well would it be for you that if a family of four spent $2,000 a month on food, going to restaurants. Let’s say they spend another $1,000 a month on what they wanted to buy, clothing or whatever. Let’s say it’s $3,000. Well, $3,000, the tax, the 15% tax, let’s say it’s $5,000. The 15% tax would be $750. You’re getting $2,000 back. So unless you’re spending in the $25,000 a month category, you’re actually making money on this deal.

The majority of the American people would do well.

Now, who wouldn’t do well?

Illegal aliens that don’t pay tax, or a lot of poor people who don’t pay their fair share tax, that is who.

You know, 50% of the American people pay no federal income tax. 50%! Is that really fair? Is it fair to you if you’re barely getting by now, but you’re paying your fair share taxes? The Fair Tax does away with that. The money that would pour in from the underground economy when people go out to buy things, that’s what people want to do, buy jewelry, buy this, buy that, buy food, buy new cars, buy yachts, then they’re going to pay their tax. That’s where the money comes from.

That is the whole idea of the Fair Tax, and I am a big proponent of the fair tax. I have been since the day I ever first heard about it about 15 years ago. It’s the only fair tax system that makes sense, and it’s the kind of tax that God would say makes sense.

The idea again is that Americans are paying more taxes today than they did in 1775 when they decided to have a Revolution against England over taxation and over liberty.

If you really want to be technical, it was really over personal liberties and not just taxation, but we’ll get into that in another show.

I am proposing that people do their research. Go to your search engine and put in the Fair Tax and start reading everything you can read about it. Then, you can write me or email me and tell me why you might think that isn’t a good thing for America…because bottom line, it is. It would make this economy boom, and it would make us the strongest nation in the world again…and it would be a blessing!

Taxes have stifled the American people. Like I said earlier, when you do not own anything, you just pay rent to the government, and it is a non-incentive. Just something that is not going to make people plan ahead. There was a time in this country, and we hear this is a country of opportunity where you can be poor, and you can become a billionaire with hard work. That isn’t really true anymore. We don’t have the same society that we had 150 years ago. Back then we had personal liberty, and we could go where we wanted to go and the sky was the limit with how much you wanted to make, no worry about permits and taxes and licenses and government red tape!  You could make a good living and most likely with some luck, get rich. That is what America is about, and we stopped that.

Our leaders have stopped it.

19:45 They hate free enterprise, they hate capitalism, they hate the American way of life and are trying to turn you into a bunch of serfs. We are going back to the Middle Ages where there are going to be lords. Guess who the lords are going to be? Not you and me, the people in DC and your state Capitols. The serfs will be you and me. 

The mass rabble who does all the living and working and dying in this country will be turned into slaves.

Slavery is on its way back. It’s just going to have a new name and be talked about differently but right now0 you are a slave to your taxes, a slave to your government. It is time that Americans wake up. If 10 percent is good enough for God it should be for Uncle Sam. 

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22:21 It’s funny, but when you read the Bible, you find out that most hated people, even in the biblical times, in the New Testament and in the Old Testament, were those people who were saddled with the burden of collecting taxes. I don’t know if they thought it was a burden because, as you could read in the New Testament especially, God thinks that most tax collectors were crooks, and they not only collected taxes for their king, in the case of Christ, Rome, but they also collected tax money for their own coffers, for their own pocketbooks. They lied, cheated, and stole, and probably there were no more of a despised class of people in the New Testament then the tax collector. We can really readily see that even today in today’s modern society. We absolutely hate taxes and death and taxes.

You know what they always say about that. We just simply do not like the IRS, and we do not like tax collectors. I’m saying, if we go to the Fair Tax, we can get rid of the IRS, and we can get rid of income taxes, and we can get rid of Big Brother overlooking everything you do trying to collect their tax money. If we went to a Fair Tax where everybody paid the same amount of sales tax, but you get rebates based on the size of your family, that would cover most people’s sales taxes for the month that are poor.

It’s progressive.

It fills all the boxes that you need about collecting money. You will actually collect more money than you do today with income taxes, and you will not have what income taxes bring you. The one thing that income taxes bring to us is poor productivity. When someone is taxed so much money of their income, they don’t want to work. They don’t want to have overtime. They don’t want to pay for the extra taxes they’re going to be charged if they work overtime. Everybody knows the story about being offered overtime during holidays and people turning it down because they know that 50, 60 percent of all the earnings they make will go to paying taxes for the privilege of working on a holiday…and that’s the plain truth.

24:45 That is one of the things that Donald Trump ran on during his campaign, did he not? He ran on not only no taxes on tips, but no taxes on Social Security and no taxes on overtime. Why? Because he knows as a businessman that his employees did not want to work overtime because they didn’t really get paid to work overtime, because the extra money they would make just went to pay Uncle Sam more taxes. So, if we got rid of the IRS, we got rid of the income tax, you’re going to have more productivity, more people are going to work, more people are going to work longer and harder to make more money to bring home to buy the things they want to buy. Then when they buy the things they want to buy, guess what? Well, you guessed it. They’re going to buy more things for their house and for their wife and for their children, and the economy is going to grow that way. The real good thing about the national sales tax replacing the income tax is that all the people who do not pay income taxes today, who skip through the system, their underground economy, and all of these tourists that come over from overseas, they will be paying their fair share of taxes, too.

When they stay in hotels and they go to Disney World and they go to movies and they go buy food in restaurants, they’re going to be paying a sales tax, even though they don’t live in the country. The drug dealers are going to be paying whenever they buy a brand new car, a brand new Lexus or whatever they’re driving these days, and rich people are going to pay their fair share, too, because they’re going to still want to buy Learjets, and they’re still going to want to buy big cars and expensive limousines, and they’re all going to be taxed at the same rate. So, everybody is going to be paying their fair share, and yet you can decide for yourself, do you want to pay sales taxes or not by how much you want to buy in a particular month?

You know you’re going to get that check every single month from Uncle Sam, and then you can decide, well, I don’t need to buy this this month, I don’t need to buy this, and you can start saving up that money that Uncle Sam’s going to send you every month to help cover the cost of taxes for the first, you know, four or five thousand dollars a month worth of purchases. Then you can save up some money, you can put a bigger down payment on a car, have less car payments, and at the same time then you pay the tax that you have saved up for the new things you want to buy. It makes the most sense of any tax system that was ever devised.

 Now I know H&R Block’s not going to like it, probably my accountant’s not going to like it, but I might and I will tell you right now, my pocketbook and your pocketbook is going to more than like it, I guarantee you.

26:59 That is my story and why I really promote the Fair Tax to replace the income tax altogether. There has to be an amendment to the Constitution to abolish the income tax, because I know politicians, they love to get drunk on our money, so they’ll pass a national sales tax, they’ll consider it a VAT tax like in Europe, and they will still have an income tax to raise extra money. This way they can have the money to waste on their DEI programs and all the nonsense that they love to spend money on.

What you have to do if you’re going to pass the Fair Tax, you’re going to have to pass an amendment to the Constitution. This is going to take some time, that you abolish the income tax, you abolish the IRS, and you get rid of it once and for all, the big burden millstone around our necks called the IRS. No more audits, no more worrying about losing everything you ever worked for because of a greedy government, and that is why I say again, look up fairtax.org, read what they have to say, they’re not advertising here, I’m not taking any money from them, this is not a plug for them, other than it’s a plug for them that I believe in what they are trying to do, and if you understood it for yourself, you would believe it too.

28:59 That’s the rest of the story on The Plain Truth today by Bob Barney, and we’ll get in with one little commercial before the end of this show, and again, I want to talk about the people that come to this podcast every day. Remember, it’s not just me you’re listening to, we have Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Bill O’Reilly, people you never even heard of, as well as we have a Sabbath show on Saturdays, and we have a short story, usually, sometimes a movie, but a short story on Saturday evening, a way to get rid of the TV set, you sit down and listen to old-time radio, really, through your computer or your iPhone and your speakerphone or in your car if you have Bluetooth, and it’s like, you know, a time with the family or time with yourself or with your loved one that you can listen to a good story, and I have found many times listening to a story is 10 times better than watching it on TV, because when you watch a story on TV, you’re seeing what the director wants you to see, you are not allowing your mind to wander and think about what it’s listening to. I find that when you listen to a story, you understand the story better and you get into it more than when you just watch it play out in front of you, and that is why even those movies and TV shows that have a narrator, they narrate the story to you, and then you watch the actors play it out as they narrate it. I find that form much better than the form of just watching a movie.

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