Bob Barney Asks…Are We a Police State?(Transcript)

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 Bob Barney Asks—Are We a Police State??

Hi, this is Bob Barney, again with The Plain Truth Today, brought to you by theplaintruth.com, the one place you can go every day to figure out what’s going on in the world and what, if anything, God has to do with it. Because God, through His Word, the Bible, has made it clear that many of the news events that happen in today had been foretold long ago. God is behind the news.

I mean, God is the news. He’s the ancient news, He’s the modern news, and He’s the news of the future. We keep trying to point that out to you.

Now, today’s program is a little different because it’s not about God at all. It’s about the fate, or the state, I should say, of American justice system. On December 17th was my wife and my 43rd wedding anniversary.

If you read The Plain Truth, we had a tribute to ourselves on it. But anyway, we went out to dinner, and we were driving through Smithfield, and we noticed what I saw was probably the largest police action going on. We couldn’t figure out what it was.

There was literally, I would say, 50 to 60 police vehicles on both sides of the road, in a corn lot, or a farm field, surrounding some house. There was a command center put up with a tent, and there was just blue lights flashing everywhere. And I said to my wife, I wonder what this is all about.

And we tried to find news of it that night, and we didn’t see anything. It was kind of held tight, I guess. And then lo and behold, if you’re reading The Plain Truth message board today, you see the story, and it was entitled, it was made to Daily Mail in Town Hall.

We did the Town Hall story, but it made the Daily Mail, it made the UK Telegraph in London, it made the West Palm Beach Post, it made about everything. FBI seizes over a hundred and fifty pipe bombs in a shocking Virginia raid. In a stunning development, the FBI seized more than a hundred and fifty pipe bombs during a raid in Virginia, uncovering a dangerous cache of weapons and explosives.

The operation, which took place after weeks of investigation, highlights the growing concerns over domestic terrorism. Is that kind of a, what I want to say, a buzzword for you? The concerns over domestic terrorism. Remember, Joe Biden said we’re more worried about domestic terrorism than we are ISIS, even after what happened in New Orleans here.

So that was a clue right there in the story. The operation took place after weeks of investigation,highlighting the growing concerns over domestic terrorism and illegal weapons manufacturing in the United States. Oh, I didn’t know it was illegal to manufacture a weapon in the United States.

I thought you could make your own weapons. Authorities have not yet released details about the individual behind the stash bombs. I wonder why that is.

But the discovery has sparked an alarm that with law enforcement agencies stressing the seriousness of the threat posed by homemade explosives, this major bust underscores the ongoing risk to the public safety and the critical role of federal agencies in preventingcatastrophic events. I don’t know about you, before I continue reading this story, does it sound like an advertisement for the police and for the FBI and for government interference in Americans’ civil rights, maybe? Does it sound like there’s maybe a little bit of wokeism in here and Democrat politics in here? According, going on with the story, according to a court filing, prosecutors revealed in a Monday motion that the explosives were discovered during a search of Brad Spafford’s Isle of Wight County farm, located just off of Norfolk, Virginia. Actually, it’s about 40 miles away from Norfolk, but I guess it would be the biggest city near it.

But it’s out in the countryside. Isle of Wight and Smithfield is a very quaint little community. It’s the home of Smithfield Foods, which is the biggest employer in the whole community, now owned by the Chinese, by the way.

And the actual Isle of Wight, it’s a kind of a funny story of a situation itself, because that county makes its money off of speeding tickets, and that’s basically where all the money comes from.Other than what Smithfield Food brings to that community. In fact, if you ever drive through a little Isle of Wight County courthouse area, and it’s only a little town of itself, in town there’s a post office that is about a size of a 20 by 30 barn.

That’s the size of the post office. And yet what looks like the largest high school you’ve ever seen in your life, and I found this out by accident, isn’t a high school. It is the court, the Isle of Wight County Court, for speeding tickets.

And it is massive. It probably, conservatively, is 80,000 square feet. In this little Isle of Wight County, in this little town of Smithfield, in Windsor, and a few other little towns.

And they make all their money handing out speeding tickets. And that is the sole revenue source other than Smithfield Foods. Talk about, you know, over-policing that town.

And there’s a funny story there. I’m friends with somebody in politics there, and I won’t use the name, but he was talking about the Chinese people that came over to Smithfield to look at their new Smithfield Foods they had bought out from the Lutter family. And they asked a question, was, is there a lot of crime in Smithfield? And no, there’s hardly any crime at all.

They said, why would you ask that question? And he said, because I noticed all the police cars.And there’s police cars everywhere, and I thought that might mean there’s a lot of crime here.And they say, oh no, that’s where they give out speeding tickets.

And then the guy smiled after he’s told this, and he goes, oh, I understand. I understand. Oh, yeah, the Chinese understand all about government corruption.

But anyway, going on from there, according to a court filing, Prosecutors Revealed Monday, in a Monday motion, that explosives discovered during the search of his farm noted they believed to be the largest number of finished explosive devices in FBI history. Man, this is big, right? Wait till you find out what this guy was arrested for. The FBI also discovered pipe bombs in a detached garage and in a backpack in his bedroom, which was labeled No Lives Matter, a reference to an extremist movement for known promoting violence.

The 36-year-old man allegedly used pictures of the outgoing Joe Biden for target practice. So he took a picture of Joe Biden, put a little bullseye on him and shot at him for target practice. I guess that’s a big felony somehow.

However, his defense lawyers insisted there’s no evidence that he planned to commit any acts of violence, adding that he has never had a criminal record. That speaks volumes to me. Let’s go on.

Several additional pipe bombs were found in a backpack completely unsecured, despite his wife and two young children living in the residence. Ooh, he’s now endangering his children and his wife. Spafford was charged with the possession of a firearm violation of the National Firearms Actafter prosecutors found a short-barreled shotgun.

He had a sawed-off shotgun, which you have to register by law, which you shouldn’t have to, by the way. Anybody should be able to own a sawed-off shotgun. But it is a, technically, it’s a crime if you have a shotgun under 16 inches, I believe is the barrel length.

This one, I think the record shows was 10 inches. And you have to register that sawed-off shotgun in order to legally possess it. So he’s got this big cache of pipe bombs, or so they claim.

This huge, the biggest explosive stockpile in the history of the FBI. And they arrest him for what?Explosives? No. They arrest him for having an illegal sawed-off shotgun.

Think about that. Where is the charge? And now it does say numerous charges for the explosives are pending. Why didn’t they charge him for the explosives right away? Well, maybe the story might shed some light upon that.

Defense attorneys, Lawrence Woodard and Jeffrey Swartz, questioned whether the explosive devices were usable because, quote, professionally trained explosive technicians had to rig the devices in order to explode them, unquote. They argued there is no evidence that Smafford had threatened anyone and that the contention that people were in danger because of opposing political views that he has is nonsensical. The investigation against him began in 2023 after an informant told the authorities, the authorities, that Smafford was stockpiling weapons and ammunition.

Oh, it’s against the law to stockpile ammunition? Really? How many rounds? Well, I have read in a different report that he had almost 1,000 rounds of rifle shells. 1,000 rounds. I have news for you.

If you do not shoot or do not have a gun or you don’t know anything about firearms, 1,000 rounds is nothing. I know people that probably have 10, 15, 20,000 rounds of ammunition for their different guns. Just wanted to point that out.

During an initial hearing on Tuesday, Federal Magistrate Judge Lawrence Leonard ruled that Smafford could be placed under house arrest at his mother’s home. Here we have the largest bomb bomber, unibomber in the history of the United States, and he’s arrested and he’s allowed out on bond under his mother’s reconnaissance. He’s free to walk out until the court date.

That’s how dangerous this man is to society, according to the judge. However, he decided to keep him in detention while prosecutors presented additional arguments. So what the judge said, you don’t have a case here.

I’m going to let him out on bail in his mother’s reconnaissance, but I’m going to hold him in jail until you can manufacture some more evidence for this guy to be charged with more serious crimes than having a sawed-off shotgun. Think about this. Now, The Plain Truth for many years has had numerous stories, both on the message board and also on the main page.

I haven’t done any of The Plain Truth today broadcast about this, but for years now, we’ve had stories about the police state that’s happening in America, police brutality in America, and the corruption of the police forces in America. I have many friends who are former police people I’ve known over the years, many of those took issue with a lot of my stands against what I think many of the police people today are, and they’re like the Casapo. And I know you keep hearing on Fox News and all these other news, it’s not the FBI agents in the field that’s the problem.

It’s not the ATF agents in the field that’s the problem. No, it’s the hierarchy under Biden’s administration and Obama’s administration that put these people in charge that’s the problem.And that’s all nonsense.

When the ATF broke down the door after taping the camera closed in Arkansas at the home of the Bill and Hillary Clinton airport’s executive director to make sure he didn’t know who was coming in the door. It was the agents in the field, the ones that are not responsible, they’re not to fault, they’re really good patriotic Americans that shot the man dead. It was a police officer in the Capitol of the United States, January 6, 2021.

It was a black police officer, not some executive put there by Biden or Nancy Pelosi, that shot an innocent woman to death who caused no harm to him or anyone else for that matter. She was doing no destructive behavior. She was entering the Capitol and for some hundred feet or more away, this man took out his revolver and shot her dead.

And what was the result? He was giving a $200,000 payoff for shooting her because his supposed mental problems that happened, PTSD type things of this terrible assault that she did upon him. When you listen to his actual radio call by trying to say she attacked him and he goes on and over and over again, you see that he was actually manufacturing the killing of her as self-defense, even though there was no self-defense involved. The man should be up on murder one charges.

He should not have been given a $200,000 payoff by Nancy Pelosi’s and her Congress. But that is what happened. And that is the man in the field.

That wasn’t the director of the Capitol Police. You know, the FBI agents that knocked down this door, along with the Isla White Sheriff’s Department, these were not the people that Obama and Biden put in power that’s knocking down the door of this man’s house. No, these are regular policemen, regular FBI agents.

And I think many are too willing and too eager to overuse their authority. I’ll just put it there. And they’re too eager and too willing to take away people’s civil rights and to arrest people who do not deserve to be arrested.

We have literally dozens, I think hundreds, maybe 1,000 January 6th people in jail. They’ve been arrested all the way up until last month, as far as I know. By who? By the leadership of the FBI? By the leadership of the Capitol Police? No.

By the agents and the policemen in the field more than willing to arrest people who did nothing.Arresting people, the FBI arresting people who didn’t even show up at the Capitol on January 6th, 2021. And they still found themselves arrested.

They found themselves incarcerated. They found that they had no rights under the Bill of Rightsbecause something called the Patriot Act, which I call the Unpatriot Act, because you’re certainly not a patriot if you voted for it. And many Republicans and many Democrats voted for it.

Every one of them deserved to be thrown in prison themselves and see what it’s like not to be given a lawyer and not allowed to defend themselves. Something that you would expect in communist China or Soviet Union or modern day Russia. I think there’s more rights for people in Russia, it seems like, than these January 6th people had.

And now it’s turning out that most of the violence being done was probably done by FBI informants and FBI agents undercover in the crowd, inciting the crowd to riot, to enter the Capitol and to create crimes. And they themselves probably were doing the crimes. And more of this is going to come out with investigations later on.

And then you have people like Liz Cheney, who was just given the Medal of Freedom Award, that absolutely lied in her congressional investigations into January 6th for political reasons and for deep state reasons and for police state reasons. My friends, we are in a time in this country where we have a police state. We have a state where there is not a true democracy and freedom as our forefathers envisioned when they wrote the Constitution and acted the Bill of Rights and started our government 250 years ago.

In fact, the principle, you’re innocent until you’re proven guilty, is no longer the basis of government in the United States of America. The law system in America now is basically, you are guilty unless you can come up with somehow proven you’re innocent. And that is the case with these January 6th people.

These people were arrested. These people were put in jail. They were not allowed to see a lawyer.

They have not had a day in court, most of them, to this day. And they have been denied their constitutional rights for a Patriot Act, which is not an amendment to the Constitution. It’s illegal.

It’s un-American. And it’s been done now for four years. America has become a police state.

I’m sorry if you do not think so, but it’s the case. And I know I have people tell me, I have friends of mine that tell me, and they were always former policemen. They’re not policemen today.

And maybe they’d have a different idea if they were policemen, that keep saying, well, you know,people who are getting in trouble usually cause themselves to be arrested. Well, that might have been the reason 25 years ago, for the most part. But I do not think that’s the reason today.

I think when the government has a problem with you, they find a crime for you. That is what Stalin did in the Soviet Union in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s. That you find me the man and I’ll find you the crime is what the going scenario is in the American legal system today, especially at the federal level.

And this thing that is going on in Smithfield that I just read you about is just a further example of this big story, this big headlines, the largest cache of pipe bombs ever found in the United States.And the man’s not even arrested for that. On top of that, his lawyer claims, and maybe his lawyer is lying, his lawyer claims that it took bomb experts to make the things explode.

Then it turns out this man has never been arrested. He has no criminal background whatsoever.Yes, he’s probably a patriotic American who absolutely detests the communist controlling this government today.

And that’s what they are. They’re ungodly communists who want to kill you. I keep having broadcast to this day, I have many broadcasts that says your government hates you and your government wants to kill you, at least the Democrats and the minor Republican part of this government.

Hopefully, when Donald Trump takes office, that will end. But I am not too sure it’s going to endbefore too many people are innocently arrested, thrown in jail and don’t have the money to fight their way out into freedom. If you don’t have a lot of money, the justice system in America really doesn’t help you.

And this government who hates your guts does want you dead if you’re not going to fall in line.And so they’re using the police force and the police forces, be it local, state or federal police forces to enact this murder by the government. It’s murder by association and by condemnation.

They say this about you, they associate you with this group and then they say they have a right to kill you because you pulled a weapon on them when they broke down your door after they taped up your camera so you couldn’t figure out who was breaking down your door. In a day and age when home invasions are at an all-time high because our police force is too interested in arrestingand terrorizing school board people, not the school board people, but the parents who go to the school boards, call them domestic terrorists and they don’t even bother spending time protecting people’s homes, their properties or their lives. Look at what happens in New York and Chicago, LA.

Look at all the rampant crimes, the illegal aliens allowed to do anything they want to do and get away with it. Look at the story. This is not America, but this is America of the future.

It’s coming to America into the neighborhood near you. Look at the story we had up on Sunday on the main page of the Plain Truth. In England, 1,400 white women were raped by Pakistani men and no one was arrested.

And the women who complained and reported they were raped were themselves targeted by the police as being racist because they did not want to be raped by a Pakistani. It seems like in English law that if you’re a Pakistani or you’re a person of color, you have the right, you have the legal right in England to rape any white woman you want. And she has to not resist.

And if she does resist, she deserves whatever happens to her. And if she turns to the police for help, they’re going to arrest her for being a racist. That is where we are today.

And if you don’t think so, start reading the newspapers. You don’t even have to go to the Plain Truth. These stories we put on the Plain Truth is coming from the Daily Mail, from the London Times, UK of London.

It’s coming from the Washington Post, the New York Times, the New York Post. These are mainstream newspapers that report this stuff. They might put it on page five or page six because they themselves are the problem.

But the point is it is being reported and nobody believes it when you tell it. I was talking to a person that came in. He was a salesperson selling me something and I was telling him the stuff that was on the Plain Truth.

I was telling him what was on the Plain Truth. And I was reading him some stories and he thought it was all a bunch of Alex Jones stuff. That’s what he told me.

That’s not true, is it? Isn’t that like what Alex Jones says? I said, no, this was from the Daily Mail.This was from the Times of London. This was from the Washington Post.

And I’m going story after story after story about police brutality, about the 1,400 rapes in England that cannot be reported. And if you report it, you could be arrested for being a racist because you resisted and you’re upset you were raped by a Pakistani. That is the story.

Read it for yourself. And if you don’t have a problem with that, it’s going to come to your house next. It’s going to come to your daughter, your wife, your husband, you name it.

It’s coming to you. It’s coming to America. It’s here, for pity’s sakes.

Joe Biden, Kamala Harris made it come here. It’s part of our daily life. I know a lot of people who live in Connecticut, where I’m from originally, who will no longer go to New York City at any timebecause they know they’re not safe in New York City.

Now, when I was growing up, New York City was, especially as a young adult, when Rudy Giuliani became mayor, it was one of the safest places in America you could go to, as a city anyway. No city is safe compared to the country. But it was a very safe city.

But we have completely have followed Leviticus 26. I looked that up in Deuteronomy 28 of your Bible. We have followed the curse of God for a nation who has become lawless.

We worship lawlessness. And we worship and we give credence to lawless police people and give them cover and say they’re not the problem, it’s their leaders. When they wholeheartedly, willingly knock down people’s doors and shoot them to death, shoot down people that enter the Capitol, that’s causing no harm whatsoever.

I thought the Capitol was the people’s house, you know. But anyway, it’s time we do wake up in this country. I’m hoping that under the Trump administration, we are going to see with Pam Bondi and some other people, Kash Patel in the FBI, that we’re going to start having investigations of some of this stuff going on.

And this lawfare and this war on the American citizen, the pro-American, pro-God, pro-Trump, pro-mega, pro-American war that this government has had on that person comes to an end. And I hope this really does happen. And I do also hope that the people who shoot down innocent people just because they’re wearing a badge has to go to jail and has to after a trial.

They have to be tried by a jury of their peers. They have the same right that everybody else should have, but they should have no better right. They don’t have a right to kill people down innocently, that are innocent, I should say.

And it’s just, we need some type of retribution of what’s going on. And it’s not just the last four years. It’s actually the last 34 years.

And that’s the plain truth. It’s gone on for a long time. We have been seeing the militarization of our police forces for a long time now against just Joe public, Joe and Sue public and not against criminals, illegal aliens, organized crime and stuff like that.

We just haven’t seen that. We’ve really seen what I think is going to happen in Smithfield. I’ll give you my opinion what’s going to happen.

Either they’re going to come up with enough trumped up charges against this guy. And the juries always think that a guy, most of the time when you see the jury, they think the guy has to be guiltyor he wouldn’t have been arrested in the first place. Unfortunately, most jurors and most smart people are on juries.

I hate to say this. They find a way out of it. But most jurors are quite unfamiliar with the court system, unfamiliar with how evil the prosecution is.

That in court, it has been said by a good friend of mine, and I agree wholeheartedly, the two biggest liars in a court is the prosecutor and a cop. Anybody who’s ever seen any type of court appearance of a police officer, a coroner, or the prosecuting attorney, the last thing you ever get out of their testimony is anybody thinking they’re telling the truth and they care about justice and they care about making sure a guilty person is found guilty and not an innocent person because that’s not what happens. They lie, cheat, steal, whatever they got to do.

I have a person that I know in Milford, Connecticut that was in jail for 33 years for a crime he didn’t do, him and his friend. And it was so easy to pin on him. And our very famous medical examiner,Dr. Lee, of OJ Simpson fame, lied, absolutely lied, and was proven, this is a proven fact, about the evidence that connected this person to a crime he did not commit.

He lied. And it turns out now in court records, he’s lied over 200 cases are being reviewed and people are being let out of jail in Connecticut based on Dr. Lee’s lies. He told the police what the police asked him to tell them.

He proved people were guilty that were innocent using phony science, fake science, you know, COVID-19 type science. It’s got to end, my friends. If we have any hope in this country of any freedom, any real freedom that our forefathers gave us and that our fathers and grandfathers and great grandfathers died for us to keep, we need to do something.

Hopefully the Donald Trump administration will start it, but it depends on all of us to make sure we don’t just hero worship any police person or any prosecutor or any government agency just because we think it’s a patriotic thing to do, because it’s not a patriotic thing to do. The truth, the plain truth, is what is a patriotic thing to do. If a cop is good and a cop deserves to be praised,let’s praise him.

But if a cop is dirty or the prosecution attorney doesn’t care about justice, they need to have a retribution. There has to become a reckoning. God requires it.

Read God’s word and he requires equal justice and justice for the poor, because the poor do not get justice today in our system. This is Bob Barney with the Plain Truth today with a little bit of a rant. I’m sorry, but this hit home because we actually saw the raid going on coming back from our anniversary dinner and after reading the story a couple weeks later, I was appalled to see that after this headline talked about this greatest pipe bomb builder in American history was arrested for having a sawed-off shotgun.

If that doesn’t say something to you, I don’t think anything else will. So until tomorrow, Bob Barney for the Plain Truth saying thank you for listening and I’ll be back.